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To Roland Trimen   21 February [1868]

Summary

RT’s argument about the Lasiocampa strikes him as very good; asks for any similar cases. Wonders whether male butterflies may serve more than one female.

Author:  Charles Robert Darwin
Addressee:  Roland Trimen
Date:  21 Feb [1868]
Classmark:  Royal Entomological Society (Trimen papers, box 21: 65)
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-5908

Matches: 4 hits

  • … To Roland Trimen   21 February [1868] …
  • … Society (Trimen papers, box 21: 65) Charles Robert Darwin Down 21 Feb [1868] Roland Trimen
  • … Place on 25 March ( letter to Roland Trimen, [21 March 1868] ). See letter to W.  B.   …
  • … this letter and the letter from Roland Trimen, 20 February 1868 . See letter from Roland …

To Roland Trimen   27 March [1868]

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Thanks RT for letter which saves him from a "terrible mistake": that no moths were more brilliantly coloured beneath than above. Suggests revised version for comment. [See Descent 1: 397.]

Author:  Charles Robert Darwin
Addressee:  Roland Trimen
Date:  27 Mar [1868]
Classmark:  DAR 82: A119–20
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-6060

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  • … DAR 82: A119–20 Charles Robert Darwin London, Chester Place, 4 27 Mar [1868] Roland Trimen
  • … To Roland Trimen   27 March [1868] …
  • … relationship between this letter and the letter from Roland Trimen, 26 March 1868 . See …
  • … letter from Roland Trimen, 26 March 1868 . See letter from Roland Trimen, 26  …
  • 1868 . See Descent 1: 397–8 for the published version of these remarks, which is very similar. Currente calamo : as the pen runs; in haste (Latin). See letter from Roland Trimen, …

To Roland Trimen   16 January [1868]

Summary

Thanks RT for drawings of ocelli, especially for the description of ocelli of S. African Saturniidae. Would like to know of any cases in which the ocelli are confined to the male, to illustrate better the case of the peacock.

Author:  Charles Robert Darwin
Addressee:  Roland Trimen
Date:  16 Jan [1868]
Classmark:  Royal Entomological Society (Trimen papers, box 21: 63)
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-5790

Matches: 6 hits

  • … To Roland Trimen   16 January [1868] …
  • … Society (Trimen papers, box 21: 63) Charles Robert Darwin Down 16 Jan [1868] Roland Trimen
  • … s tail are in DAR 84. See also letter from Roland Trimen, 13 January 1868 , n.  11. …
  • … this letter and the letter from Roland Trimen, 13 January 1868 . Trimen enclosed a sketch …
  • … his letter of 13 January 1868 . See letter from Roland Trimen, 13 January 1868  and n.  2. …
  • Trimen, Roland. 1862–6. Rhopalocera Africæ Australis; a catalogue of South African butterflies, comprising descriptions of all the known species with notices of their larvæ, pupæ, localities, habits, seasons of appearance, and geographical distribution. London: Trübner. Cape Town, South Africa: W. F. Mathew. Variation : The variation of animals and plants under domestication. By Charles Darwin. 2 vols. London: John Murray. 1868. …

To Roland Trimen   14 April [1868]

Summary

Has tried using dealers’ price-lists as a guide to sex ratios in Lepidoptera; finds numerous cases in which the sexes bring different prices and in virtually all of them the males are cheaper. This seems to confirm the impression of the field collectors.

Wishes RT good luck with natural history in S. Africa.

Author:  Charles Robert Darwin
Addressee:  Roland Trimen
Date:  14 Apr [1868]
Classmark:  Royal Entomological Society (Trimen papers, box 21: 68)
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-6117

Matches: 6 hits

  • … To Roland Trimen   14 April [1868] …
  • … Society (Trimen papers, box 21: 68) Charles Robert Darwin Down 14 Apr [1868] Roland Trimen
  • … letter and the letter from Roland Trimen, 13 April 1868 . Trimen had included extracts …
  • … differences in Lepidoptera (see, for example, letter from Roland Trimen, 26 March 1868 ). …
  • … of insects ( Blanchard 1868 , pp.  225–6, 282; see letter from Roland Trimen, 13  …
  • … April 1868  and nn.  5 and 6 for the extracts). See letter from Roland Trimen, 13 April  …

To Roland Trimen   [21 March 1868]

Summary

Arranges for RT to call.

Author:  Charles Robert Darwin
Addressee:  Roland Trimen
Date:  [21 Mar 1868]
Classmark:  Royal Entomological Society (Trimen papers, box 21: 67)
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-6035

Matches: 3 hits

To Roland Trimen   [16 March 1868]

Summary

Asks whether RT will call.

Author:  Charles Robert Darwin
Addressee:  Roland Trimen
Date:  [16 Mar 1868]
Classmark:  Royal Entomological Society (Trimen papers, box 21: 66)
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-6015

Matches: 4 hits

  • … To Roland Trimen   [16 March 1868] …
  • … box 21: 66) Charles Robert Darwin London, Chester Place, 4 [16 Mar 1868] Roland Trimen
  • … Bibliography Trimen, Roland. 1868. On some remarkable mimetic analogies among African …
  • … letter and the letter from Roland Trimen, 20 March [1868] . The first Monday before 20  …

To Roland Trimen   12 February [1868]

Summary

Is interested in the relative numbers of males and females of all animals; wants any instances of males, or females, being in excess.

Author:  Charles Robert Darwin
Addressee:  Roland Trimen
Date:  12 Feb [1868]
Classmark:  Royal Entomological Society (Trimen papers, box 21: 64)
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-5867

Matches: 4 hits

  • … To Roland Trimen   12 February [1868] …
  • … Society (Trimen papers, box 21: 64) Charles Robert Darwin Down 12 Feb [1868] Roland Trimen
  • … this letter and the letter from Roland Trimen, 10 February 1868 . See letter from Roland …
  • Roland Trimen, 24 December [1867] and n.  1). CD refers to Alfred Russel Wallace . See letter to H.  W.  Bates, 11 February [1868] …

From Roland Trimen   20 March [1868]

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On attraction of males by females in moths. H. T. Stainton mentions a case.

Author:  Roland Trimen
Addressee:  Charles Robert Darwin
Date:  20 Mar [1868]
Classmark:  DAR 86: A92–3
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-6030

Matches: 6 hits

  • … From Roland Trimen   20 March [1868] …
  • … DAR 86: A92–3 Roland Trimen Tenbury, Worcestershire 20 Mar [1868] Charles Robert Darwin …
  • … 6, below). See letter to Roland Trimen, [16 March 1868] . In his letter of 21 February [ …
  • … 20 February 1868 , and letter to Roland Trimen, 21 February [1868] . Lasiocampa quercus is …
  • … 2 vols. London: J. van Voorst. Trimen, Roland. 1868. On some remarkable mimetic analogies …
  • 1868 (see CD’s journal ( Correspondence vol.  16, Appendix II)). See letter from Roland Trimen, …

To Roland Trimen   2 January [1868]

Summary

CD seeks information on the variation of ocelli within species of butterflies.

Author:  Charles Robert Darwin
Addressee:  Roland Trimen
Date:  2 Jan [1868]
Classmark:  Royal Entomological Society (Trimen papers, box 21: 62)
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-5772

Matches: 2 hits

From Roland Trimen   10 February 1868

Summary

Sends prospectus of forthcoming work by his brother [Henry Trimen] and W. T. Thiselton-Dyer [Flora of Middlesex (1869)]. Hopes CD will subscribe.

Author:  Roland Trimen
Addressee:  Charles Robert Darwin
Date:  10 Feb 1868
Classmark:  DAR 178: 186, DAR 84.1: 135b
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-5857

Matches: 3 hits

  • … From Roland Trimen   10 February 1868
  • … DAR 84.1: 135b Roland Trimen London, Guildford St, 71 10 Feb 1868 Charles Robert Darwin …
  • … Dyer 1869). See letter from Roland Trimen, 13 January 1868 , and letter to Roland Trimen, …

From Roland Trimen   13 January 1868

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Variations in the ocelli of Lepidoptera.

Encloses six pages from his catalogue of S. African butterflies [Rhopalocera Africae australis, 2 pts (1862, 1866)].

Author:  Roland Trimen
Addressee:  Charles Robert Darwin
Date:  13 Jan 1868
Classmark:  DAR 84.1: 40–2, 168
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-5785

Matches: 4 hits

  • … From Roland Trimen   13 January 1868
  • … 84.1: 40–2, 168 Roland Trimen London, Guildford St, 71 13 Jan 1868 Charles Robert Darwin …
  • … See letter to Roland Trimen, 2 January [1868] and n.  2. The references are to Cyllo …
  • … was given in the letter from Roland Trimen, 26 March 1868 . CD probably refers to notes on …

From Roland Trimen   13 April 1868

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Extract from Émile Blanchard’s Metamorphoses, moeurs et instincts des insectes [1868], on attraction of males by female Lepidoptera, and possible explanation.

Author:  Roland Trimen
Addressee:  Charles Robert Darwin
Date:  13 Apr 1868
Classmark:  DAR 85: B50–1
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-6116

Matches: 6 hits

  • … From Roland Trimen   13 April 1868
  • … DAR 85: B50–1 Roland Trimen London, Guildford St, 71 13 Apr 1868 Charles Robert Darwin …
  • … Geometroidea; see letter from Roland Trimen, 26 March 1868  and n.  3). In Descent 1: 312, …
  • Roland Trimen Extract from Emile Blanchard’s “Métamorphoses Mœurs, et Instincts des Insectes”, (Paris, 1868. ) …
  • 1868 . For earlier references to the behaviour of the moth Lasiocampa quercus (the oak eggar), see the letter from Roland Trimen, …
  • Roland Trimen, 23 May [1863] and n.  3). Aside from minor misspellings, Trimen transcribed the extracts accurately. English translation of extract from Blanchard 1868 , …

From Roland Trimen   27 March 1868

Summary

Approves CD’s revision on coloration of moths.

Impressed with apparent adverse tendencies: one toward sexual selection, the other toward protection.

Author:  Roland Trimen
Addressee:  Charles Robert Darwin
Date:  27 Mar 1868
Classmark:  DAR 82: A120v
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-6061

Matches: 2 hits

From Roland Trimen   26 March 1868

Summary

Coloration in moths.

Quotes Achille Guénée on relative proportion of sexes in Phalaenites.

Author:  Roland Trimen
Addressee:  Charles Robert Darwin
Date:  26 Mar 1868
Classmark:  DAR 81: 76, DAR 85: B61–2, DAR 84.1: 134–5
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-6055

Matches: 4 hits

  • … From Roland Trimen   26 March 1868
  • … DAR 84.1: 134–5 Roland Trimen London, Guildford St, 71 26 Mar 1868 Charles Robert Darwin …
  • … CD’s annotations to the letter from Roland Trimen, 13 January 1868 . Satyrus hermione is a …
  • … visited CD on 25 March 1868 (see letter to Roland Trimen, [21 March 1868] ) and may have …

From Roland Trimen   20 February 1868

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Proportion of sexes in butterflies; discussion of subject at meeting of Entomological Society, London.

Attraction of males by female Lasiocampa quercus. [see Descent 1: 311–12.]

Author:  Roland Trimen
Addressee:  Charles Robert Darwin
Date:  20 Feb 1868
Classmark:  DAR 85: B59–60a
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-5902

Matches: 3 hits

  • … From Roland Trimen   20 February 1868
  • … DAR 85: B59–60a Roland Trimen London, Guildford St, 71 20 Feb 1868 Charles Robert Darwin …
  • … See letter to Roland Trimen, 12 February [1868] and n.  2. The reference is to Flora of …

Trimen, Roland. 1868. On some remarkable mimetic analogies among African butterflies. [Read 5 March 1868.] Transactions of the Linnean Society of London 26 (1868–70): 497–522.

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  • Trimen, Roland. 1868. On some remarkable mimetic analogies among African butterflies. [ …

From Arthur Gardiner Butler   19 July 1870

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Supplies names of moths and references.

Describes his breeding experiments with butterflies to test effects of reduced light.

Author:  Arthur Gardiner Butler
Addressee:  Charles Robert Darwin
Date:  19 July 1870
Classmark:  DAR 160: 387
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-7284

Matches: 1 hit

  • … vol.  16, letter from Roland Trimen, 13 January 1868  for Trimen’s description of Gynanisa …

To H. W. Bates   22 February [1868]

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Thanks HWB for bringing "the question of sexes" before the Entomological Society. Feels he will come to some conclusion by comparison of numerous observations.

It appears Pangenesis "will expire unblessed and uncursed by the world".

Author:  Charles Robert Darwin
Addressee:  Henry Walter Bates
Date:  22 Feb [1868]
Classmark:  Houghton Library, Harvard University (Autograph file, D)
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-5914

Matches: 2 hits

  • … February 1868 , and letter from Roland Trimen, 20 February 1868 . CD was in London from 3  …
  • 1868 . See letters from H.  W.  Bates, 18 February 1868  and 21 February 1868 . See letter from H.  W.  Bates, 18 February 1868  and n.  1. Henry Tibbats Stainton and Roland Trimen . …

To Roland Trimen   24 December [1867]

Summary

Invites RT to come to Down for a week-end.

Author:  Charles Robert Darwin
Addressee:  Roland Trimen
Date:  24 Dec [1867]
Classmark:  Royal Entomological Society (Trimen papers, box 21: 61)
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-5739

Matches: 1 hit

  • … of London, Series B 91: xviii–xxvii. Trimen, Roland. 1868. On some remarkable mimetic …

To J. J. Weir   4 April [1868]

Summary

CD thanks JJW for the mine of information his last "ten!" letters contain. Comments on sexual display of pheasants and colour preferences of pigeons.

Asks about hens that pair earliest in spring and about possible existence of unpaired birds.

Author:  Charles Robert Darwin
Addressee:  John Jenner Weir
Date:  4 Apr [1868]
Classmark:  American Philosophical Society (Mss.B.D25.)
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-6090

Matches: 2 hits

  • … CD in London on 25 March 1868 (see letter to Roland Trimen, [21 March 1868] ). See letter …
  • 1868 . Dun Hen Carrier: a female dun-coloured pigeon. The information on the pigeon is cited in Descent 2: 118. Roland Trimen
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